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I would like to elaborate on "not that bad" part. I think on one hand, you underestimate the peer pressure to keep wokeness, even despite Trump assault. One the other hand, I also think you coul d be unhinged lefty in some context, and thoughtful, level-headed researcher in another.

"Why won't they drop it when their livelyhoods are at risk?" is an interesting question. I would correct a bit - I don't think they pretend to be woke when they actually not woke. Well, maybe a bit. I know that some professors wrote their DEI statements with chatGPT, but I'm not sure "you" "can" "force" "chatGPT" "to" "use" "scary" "quotes" "everywhere". Rather, I think they kinda have two modes of thinking - one is woke for normal life, the other is scientific that encourages open discussion, carefully examines the evidence... and, yeah, sometimes concludes that Marxism sucks.

For example, I took a course on "Commies and Nazis". It did pretty good job outlining everything early commies did, GULAGs, and fear of getting executed through shooring. I also know that prof was still leaning towards Marxism, in a "it's a great unreachable ideal" sense.

I had another prof who though Thatcher market policies were neat, _and_ thought "disability" was a bad term, because the opposite would be normal.

Point it, most professors are leftists by conviction. In professional setting, it's not a problem. They are good researchers, and won't ignore facts when the facts are clearly not in their favor. This reminds me of one essay, ""Lesbian-Like" and the Social History of Lesbianisms" by Bennet, and she's pretty open about the fact that interpretations of literature that find queerness probably are in large part scholar's clever imagination(8). Because they are good researchers, in professional setting they have good insights and are worth listening to. But they are still leftists! Not using lefty language in places where it's a norm does not signal you are level-headed, it signals you are not a lefty. Especially since universities are under assault, they don't want to surrender to Trump.

Also, students are leftists too. For all talk about college "indoctrinating" kids, chances are, if you are going into "studies" or humanities major, you are already lefty. Most first-year humanities people I knew were to my left. I had been in class where we discussed African oral tradition. It were students who were most enthusiastically mocking the "european worship of the written word", and stating that the oral tradition is just as good. Even if you came to think it's bullshit, would you risk offending 15-30 leftists who, in blue states at least, still might try to get you in trouble?

That said, there are some people who are objectively bad and unhinged. I didn't meet any personally, but there was enough proof for some I seen in the news. And I do think a lot of language is bad: I dislike the term "lesbian-like" and have a vendetta with "bourgeoisie".

I'm not sure how well this analogy would work, but you also had wrote an essay "Trans Women Are Women". Trans issues aren't popular, and the slogan is used by some unhinged people, even if your ideas in the essay are pretty normal. So why didn't you use language that couldn't potentially conjure image of a writer who wants to abolish gender?

Nathan Barnard's avatar

As my two cents, I went to university in the UK studied politics, philosophy and economics but mostly economics. My philosophy and economics courses were very standard stuff, and my politics classes were as well, with the exception of a political economy class I took in my first year that was strongly influenced by the critical theory epistemology and was explicitly against formal models and quantitative methods, which was an extremely annoying class. In it's defence, it was good at asking some questions very directly that my economics classes did not like "why is there inequality" where thinking about that in a very direct way has informed the very mathematical economics research I'm doing now.

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