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katma shapte's avatar

I’ll be nice seeing as you’re clearly a child; you have no idea what you’re talking about, which is fine because again, you are a child. Aside from the admirably ignorant take on the role of language education, your analysis of the translation field is flat out wrong. MT is faster than a human, this we know, and that is useful for technical, quick, pragmatic translation of MAJOR world languages, but for the literary arts and minor world languages it is completely inadequate. The world is much larger than English and the two or three languages your high school offers, and most languages are not written down. You need a corpus to create an LLM which is what MT requires. Without a suitable corpus this task is impossible for the computer to do with accuracy. Linguists and language ambassadors end up deciding what is considered ‘suitable’ and most, as in 99.99% of, languages do not have this. Yes the translation field is slimming down, but in my opinion we’re pruning an oversaturated field of Spanish, French, and German and (in a way) incentivizing specialty in minority languages.

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Rambling comment coming up: I think that there’s immense value in learning logic and procedural thinking. But sitting through any math more advanced than arithmetic and basic geometry / algebra is wasted on most (?) students, wouldn’t you say? There’s also value in practicing the ability to encode / decode things in / from script — foundational to civilization, innit?.. Does learning a foreign language in school somehow help with that?.. Yes, but probably not any better than a class on math or computer programming. Why bother with teaching programming with LLMs around?

My argument for learning a foreign language is that language reinforces certain neural circuits, and learning a new language probably forces one to find equivalence in an unfamiliar sound / script, so it might be a way to gain the skill of empathy down to the neural circuit level?.. How well it does so depends strongly on the amount of student effort and ability, and quality of instruction, yes, but isn’t that true for everything?..

Actually, I should delete that entire last sentence — learning by immersion / necessity works way better than anything else, IME.

Oh, what about learning body language?.. Maybe more valuable than foreign language. Force everyone to take multiple classes on acting!

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